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		<title>By: Niall Fergerson on America’s Debt Spiral</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2010 14:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ron&#039;s Matrix Sentry</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 01:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ron&#039;s Matrix Sentry</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 01:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2010 05:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Rachael Marie July 8, 2010 at 9:56 am

......&quot;Credit crisis, then fiscal crisis, then currency crisis. Bring it on. Let’s get it over so we can rebuild our country again. Our country, not by the corporations, of the corporations, and for the corporations……&quot;

This, unfortunately is what happens when a &#039;Country&#039; fully signs up to &#039;By the people, of the people and for the people&#039;....

&#039;People&#039; start a business, business becomes a corporation, corporation gains power, Government panders to corporation....blah blah blah.

America isn&#039;t just constrained by it&#039;s own constitution, it&#039;s also (and just as unfortunately) firmly captive to Jewish financial dogma (Initially instigated with the European banking clans centuries ago).

There is ONLY one way to completely solve the problem, and it&#039;s a solution that absolutely cannot be manipulated by shady bankers and their servant governments. It applies not only to America, but to the rest of the world......

A Gold Standard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Rachael Marie July 8, 2010 at 9:56 am</p>
<p>&#8230;&#8230;&#8221;Credit crisis, then fiscal crisis, then currency crisis. Bring it on. Let’s get it over so we can rebuild our country again. Our country, not by the corporations, of the corporations, and for the corporations……&#8221;</p>
<p>This, unfortunately is what happens when a &#8216;Country&#8217; fully signs up to &#8216;By the people, of the people and for the people&#8217;&#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8216;People&#8217; start a business, business becomes a corporation, corporation gains power, Government panders to corporation&#8230;.blah blah blah.</p>
<p>America isn&#8217;t just constrained by it&#8217;s own constitution, it&#8217;s also (and just as unfortunately) firmly captive to Jewish financial dogma (Initially instigated with the European banking clans centuries ago).</p>
<p>There is ONLY one way to completely solve the problem, and it&#8217;s a solution that absolutely cannot be manipulated by shady bankers and their servant governments. It applies not only to America, but to the rest of the world&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>A Gold Standard.</p>
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		<title>By: BlockHead</title>
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		<dc:creator>BlockHead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2010 05:26:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DocsZap, my bad, there should have been a period after &quot;Republicans&quot;. I should have clarified that it is republicans in power. Not since Nixon, has the republican party made environmental conservation, or even a healthy environment as part of its platform. It was a sad day for me when Reagan took the solar panels off the White House Roof.
The Catching Away or I&#039;ve learned it as the Rapture is a viewpoint by many people I know, and it is not political party specific based on my circle of friends. I truely respect your certainty of this prediction, but I simply do not agree that any of us will be caught away. I think if we ignore population dynamics and do not adjust our economy to benefit the human population as a whole, instead of such a heavy tilt to the top 2%, humans will one day face a massive die off. We can either fix things now or nature will fix them later. I agree that it is wise to be In Christ, but as a Christian, the blatant unfairness of our economic and gov&#039;t system, coupled with things like Drill Baby Drill, from conservatives that do not conserve, I must fight to try to change this because that is what Christian means to me. I get frustrated with Christians I know that feel there is nothing they can do and God will fix it. Well, I&#039;m not saying that is your view, but the view of people that I know that believe in the rapture, seems to be a cop out to me, there is no fight in them to create an environment that is better for the next generation.
I feel if the right minds and good people of whatever religion do not prevail, we as a species will all suffer and the human population will collapse. The only question is how much time do we have to get it right.

By the way, I feel Rubino&#039;s site is very informative and educational. Thanks John</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DocsZap, my bad, there should have been a period after &#8220;Republicans&#8221;. I should have clarified that it is republicans in power. Not since Nixon, has the republican party made environmental conservation, or even a healthy environment as part of its platform. It was a sad day for me when Reagan took the solar panels off the White House Roof.<br />
The Catching Away or I&#8217;ve learned it as the Rapture is a viewpoint by many people I know, and it is not political party specific based on my circle of friends. I truely respect your certainty of this prediction, but I simply do not agree that any of us will be caught away. I think if we ignore population dynamics and do not adjust our economy to benefit the human population as a whole, instead of such a heavy tilt to the top 2%, humans will one day face a massive die off. We can either fix things now or nature will fix them later. I agree that it is wise to be In Christ, but as a Christian, the blatant unfairness of our economic and gov&#8217;t system, coupled with things like Drill Baby Drill, from conservatives that do not conserve, I must fight to try to change this because that is what Christian means to me. I get frustrated with Christians I know that feel there is nothing they can do and God will fix it. Well, I&#8217;m not saying that is your view, but the view of people that I know that believe in the rapture, seems to be a cop out to me, there is no fight in them to create an environment that is better for the next generation.<br />
I feel if the right minds and good people of whatever religion do not prevail, we as a species will all suffer and the human population will collapse. The only question is how much time do we have to get it right.</p>
<p>By the way, I feel Rubino&#8217;s site is very informative and educational. Thanks John</p>
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		<title>By: DosZap</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jul 2010 22:57:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blockhead,

&quot;Republicans, I sometimes think alot of people I meet want the rapture to occur. I only laugh, I laugh at them for wanting misery, for all of humankind, and then they think they’ll go to heaven?&quot;.

Yes you have it correct,the Catching Away will occur (Rapture is nowhere in the scriptures)...but the meaning is basically Snatched Away.
( As for Republicans??), that part I missed...........those that remain and suffer do so because their not In CHRIST,not because Christians want them to suffer.
And, are left behind............I suggest those that are not IN Christ, get there asap, as the signs are everywhere, for HIS return,and the AntiChrist&#039;s appearing.

As for the Economy............

Deflation first, yes, next and always, Inflation,then Hyper Inflation.
So, do what you wish,if your a PM holder, HOLD.

While it may drop in value, it won&#039;t last long.Use the drop period  (if the same mistake is made again as in &#039;08),which I HOPE to see, but many people are far more ON top of this game, now than then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blockhead,</p>
<p>&#8220;Republicans, I sometimes think alot of people I meet want the rapture to occur. I only laugh, I laugh at them for wanting misery, for all of humankind, and then they think they’ll go to heaven?&#8221;.</p>
<p>Yes you have it correct,the Catching Away will occur (Rapture is nowhere in the scriptures)&#8230;but the meaning is basically Snatched Away.<br />
( As for Republicans??), that part I missed&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..those that remain and suffer do so because their not In CHRIST,not because Christians want them to suffer.<br />
And, are left behind&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;I suggest those that are not IN Christ, get there asap, as the signs are everywhere, for HIS return,and the AntiChrist&#8217;s appearing.</p>
<p>As for the Economy&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>Deflation first, yes, next and always, Inflation,then Hyper Inflation.<br />
So, do what you wish,if your a PM holder, HOLD.</p>
<p>While it may drop in value, it won&#8217;t last long.Use the drop period  (if the same mistake is made again as in &#8217;08),which I HOPE to see, but many people are far more ON top of this game, now than then.</p>
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		<title>By: Arctic Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arctic Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jul 2010 17:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Notice how he beats around the bush, talks in shades of grey.  This is classical middle of the road clap-trap.  This guy is struggling to find the words that will be accepted by the highest percentage of viewers.  He wants to get back on TV!  Hell, he wants this as a career!  Look at his tentative facial expressions; “Are they buying it?  I don’t know. What if I say this…”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Notice how he beats around the bush, talks in shades of grey.  This is classical middle of the road clap-trap.  This guy is struggling to find the words that will be accepted by the highest percentage of viewers.  He wants to get back on TV!  Hell, he wants this as a career!  Look at his tentative facial expressions; “Are they buying it?  I don’t know. What if I say this…”</p>
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		<title>By: Duane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jul 2010 05:08:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bruce - I have two articles of interest, buried somewhere in my History or Favorites, that I should be able to track down.  One gold expert actually said the rational price of gold is less than its current going price - how&#039;s that for candor from a gold bug?  His rationale is in the article, but I believe his valuation is based on that of the established gold miners, utilizing a time-tested rule-of-thumb.  Another says and seemingly demonstrates, that the best indicator of the price action of gold is .... (drumroll) ... real interest rates.  I&#039;ll find those articles in the coming week.  So, one of these fellows uses a fundamental analysis, and the other looks at the investing environment.

I think that deflation, insofar as it is reflected in an increase in the value of the US Dollar, puts a downward pressure on the price of gold and silver.  However, supply and demand (for gold) may create an upward pressure.  There can also be a speculative bubble, due to fear and uncertainty.  I think the gold bugs are desperately pushing hyper-inflation fears to fuel this speculative bubble.  No doubt there are other important forces.  It&#039;s the sum of these forces that results in the price.

I personally don&#039;t see how we can hyper-inflate.  That chart in Martenson&#039;s article tells us that inflation has already happened, in the form of immense credit expansion, since the 70&#039;s.  I&#039;m sure the gov&#039;t will try to exert what remaining inflationary pressure they can (Gordon T. Long seems to &quot;know&quot; that there will be another $5T in stimulus).  But IMO we are &quot;inflationed out&quot;, we have too much excess capacity, and maybe hyper-deflation is more plausible (that last clause is a hyper-speculation).

The prices of individual entities will therefore see a downward pressure, but their ultimate prices will be determined by many factors that are unique to each entity.  Basic staples are presumed to see an increase in demand, for example.  Also, worldwide demand may trump our demand (or lack thereof).  Commodity shortages could cause price anomolies.  Etc., etc.. Everything has to be analyzed separately, but in general prices will go down.  That&#039;s what I&#039;m counting on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bruce &#8211; I have two articles of interest, buried somewhere in my History or Favorites, that I should be able to track down.  One gold expert actually said the rational price of gold is less than its current going price &#8211; how&#8217;s that for candor from a gold bug?  His rationale is in the article, but I believe his valuation is based on that of the established gold miners, utilizing a time-tested rule-of-thumb.  Another says and seemingly demonstrates, that the best indicator of the price action of gold is &#8230;. (drumroll) &#8230; real interest rates.  I&#8217;ll find those articles in the coming week.  So, one of these fellows uses a fundamental analysis, and the other looks at the investing environment.</p>
<p>I think that deflation, insofar as it is reflected in an increase in the value of the US Dollar, puts a downward pressure on the price of gold and silver.  However, supply and demand (for gold) may create an upward pressure.  There can also be a speculative bubble, due to fear and uncertainty.  I think the gold bugs are desperately pushing hyper-inflation fears to fuel this speculative bubble.  No doubt there are other important forces.  It&#8217;s the sum of these forces that results in the price.</p>
<p>I personally don&#8217;t see how we can hyper-inflate.  That chart in Martenson&#8217;s article tells us that inflation has already happened, in the form of immense credit expansion, since the 70&#8242;s.  I&#8217;m sure the gov&#8217;t will try to exert what remaining inflationary pressure they can (Gordon T. Long seems to &#8220;know&#8221; that there will be another $5T in stimulus).  But IMO we are &#8220;inflationed out&#8221;, we have too much excess capacity, and maybe hyper-deflation is more plausible (that last clause is a hyper-speculation).</p>
<p>The prices of individual entities will therefore see a downward pressure, but their ultimate prices will be determined by many factors that are unique to each entity.  Basic staples are presumed to see an increase in demand, for example.  Also, worldwide demand may trump our demand (or lack thereof).  Commodity shortages could cause price anomolies.  Etc., etc.. Everything has to be analyzed separately, but in general prices will go down.  That&#8217;s what I&#8217;m counting on.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Thrasher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad Thrasher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jul 2010 21:43:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert Reich makes an astute argument for a coming trade war.  It reminds me of one of my own basic observations that our challenge is now making a profit amid the distribution of an abundance of goods and services.

The market&#039;s solution to abundance is the supply/demand curve trigger of the price mechanism leading into recession/depression.

There must be a better way.

http://robertreich.org/post/789574303/the-vanishing-american-consumer-and-the-coming-trade

All the best,
Thrash</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert Reich makes an astute argument for a coming trade war.  It reminds me of one of my own basic observations that our challenge is now making a profit amid the distribution of an abundance of goods and services.</p>
<p>The market&#8217;s solution to abundance is the supply/demand curve trigger of the price mechanism leading into recession/depression.</p>
<p>There must be a better way.</p>
<p><a href="http://robertreich.org/post/789574303/the-vanishing-american-consumer-and-the-coming-trade" rel="nofollow">http://robertreich.org/post/789574303/the-vanishing-american-consumer-and-the-coming-trade</a></p>
<p>All the best,<br />
Thrash</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Thrasher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad Thrasher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jul 2010 20:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Robert King

Agreed, the paper money boys are feudalists without titles.

@Bruce C.,

Expect the value of gold to decline during the anticipated deflationary cycle and increase afterward with hyperinflation.

A sign for our time, from Casa D&#039;Ice Restaurant &amp; Lounge:

EMERGENCY BAILOUT...MILLIONS, BILLIONS, TRILLIONS...LET&#039;S HOPE THEY FIX IT SOON....WE ONLY HAVE 23 LETTERS REMAINING IN THE ALPHABET.

All the best,
Thrash</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Robert King</p>
<p>Agreed, the paper money boys are feudalists without titles.</p>
<p>@Bruce C.,</p>
<p>Expect the value of gold to decline during the anticipated deflationary cycle and increase afterward with hyperinflation.</p>
<p>A sign for our time, from Casa D&#8217;Ice Restaurant &amp; Lounge:</p>
<p>EMERGENCY BAILOUT&#8230;MILLIONS, BILLIONS, TRILLIONS&#8230;LET&#8217;S HOPE THEY FIX IT SOON&#8230;.WE ONLY HAVE 23 LETTERS REMAINING IN THE ALPHABET.</p>
<p>All the best,<br />
Thrash</p>
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